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Album Reviews
Burn The Fleet
Previous Nextauthor AP date 14/03/10
After seeing Burn the Fleet for the first time in January with fellow scribes TL and BL, we became extremely interested in the band, and their EP release show provided the perfect opportunity for conducting an interview with a band that in our opinion, is going to be huge one day. With a reputation as one of Southampton's finest live acts, not to mention a sound that brings to mind such international heavyweights as Alexisonfire, Brand New, Polar Bear Club, Thrice and Thursday, it's easy to see why we think so. After watching Forever Can Wait's support set, we headed upstairs to the Joiners' offices and sat down for a lengthy interview about the band's story, ambitions and their opinions on the local music scene. Read on to find out what the four Solent University graduates had to say about themselves.
James: I'm James, and I play guitar and I do a little bit of singing.
Andrew: I'm Andy, I play bass, and I'm the lead singer.
Jack: I'm Jack, and I play guitar, and I sing even less than James.
Ross: Still more than me...
Jack: Still a little bit more than Ross.
Jack: James didn't have a lot of friends...
Andrew: Yeah, James didn't have a lot of friends. And Ross lived in mine and Jack's halls, and me and Ross were on the same course together. So by that, it all just sort of came together. It started originally with Jack and James playing, and they got me in because I was playing drums for another band. We just had a jam, and I realised I was really shit at drums - the others would write really complicated stuff and I was just trying to keep a straight beat - so I said I had a good friend of mine who would love to do drums, so we got Ross in, and I was like "I don't want to leave this band", so I was like, "I'll play bass!" It ended up with me singing as well.
RF.net: So what did you guys study at university?
Andrew: Me and Ross did popular music.
James: I did graphic design.
Jack: I did screenwriting.
RF.net: Did you all graduate with good degrees?
Andrew: Yeah.
Jack: Yeah we did.
James: I did lose my work halfway through third year, a little harddrive problem. Shaky, shaky moment in my life.
Jack: He nearly failed. But the hair's growing back now (laughing).
RF.net: I had the same problem just before Christmas when I was supposed to hand in the interim report for my dissertation...
Jack: Oh, really? Unfortunate!
Ross: James obviously did graphic design, so he does a lot of the artwork. He did the cover for the EP and all the little things you get with the limited edition, posters and so on, and he also does our t-shirt designs...
Jack: Our flyers and MySpace as well.
Andrew: But then me and Ross did music so we've got some knowledge in production - Ross a lot more than me. So like when we need a demo, me and Ross will be able to have that ready. And then Jack, with screenwriting, helps with writing lyrics. If I'm like, "how do I word this now?", if I don't want to use a certain expression, Jack comes up with other ways to put it. So, yeah, I'd say we're putting to use some of the stuff we learned at university.
Ross: It may not be obvious, but deep down somewhere it all adds up.
Jack: Yeah, definitely.
Ross: We didn't have a MySpace and at the time we hadn't booked any shows. We literally needed a MySpace and we needed a name for that MySpace, and we all liked the name.
Jack: We all like Thrice.
Ross: That's the one band that all of us like, so...
RF.net: That's actually pretty interesting, because our staff thinks Burn The Fleet sound like Thrice in their early years, and that watching you live must be what it was like to watch Thrice live before they broke through. And we also mentioned names like Polar Bear Club, Dallas Green and Thursday in the review we did of the Mo'Club opening show. What are your thoughts on that?
Andrew: To be honest that review just nailed it. Best thing I ever read. I mean, comparing me to Dustin Kensrue and Dallas Green - I was pretty knocked over to read about that, that was amazing.
James: I loved the drunken sailor reference he used to describe me.
Ross: He couldn't have nailed it more on the head.
Andrew: Musically, Thrice is the band we all agree on. We might not literally go, that's how we sound like, but it's a big influence on all four of us. Ross is quite heavily into reggae and old sort of pop punk; James is into absolutely insane shit; Jack is a metalhead...
Jack: Am I?
Andrew: Yeah, you are... and then I'm more into a lot of acoustic stuff. I mean I do like other stuff too, like old music from the 50s and so on.
Ross: Between us we all like every stage that Thrice has been through. From like a post-hardcore band to a heavy rock/metal band to the experimental stuff they are doing now covers all the music we like.
James: I love the new bits, you like the old bits.
Ross: Yeah, so someone saying that this must be what it was like watching Thrice in their early years... I mean if I had seen Thrice before they were big, I would have died, so for me that's the biggest compliment I've ever been given.
Jack: We were all trying to find Andy to ask him what he thought about it but he just left the venue.
Andrew: But yeah, basically Bury Tomorrow did that for us.
Jack: We also get access to a lot of random crowds, like Andy said Bury Tomorrow's, but we've also played with Twin Atlantic and Polar Bear Club. We play with a varied selection of bands because we don't quite fall into a category. We cover a lot of ground, so a lot of people get access to our stuff.
James: That would answer the genre question, really. We're somewhere in between.
Jack: Which is why tonight we've got Viva Sleep who are progressive, we have Forever Can
Wait who are pop punk, and we've got Boys With Xray Eyes who are just nuts.
RF.net: When you play shows in other cities, is the reaction just as good then?
Andrew: Yeah, I mean it's started to be now, because our name's gone out and people kind of expect it. Like Bournemouth now, we've pretty much got that show sorted. We play a lot of Southern shows where people from here travel to watch us. But like when we played in Cheltenham with Exit Ten, that was amazing. During our last song people were singing along - obviously it's an easy to sing along to, "Handfuls of Sand", but still, we're definitely getting good reactions. We're still quite a young band in touring respect, because we've very recently started doing that, but I think if we keep going the way we are, it can only get better.
Ross: We didn't want to write off the new material. We were tracking new demos, but because we only played our first like a year and a half ago, we went to the studio to record the EP before we played the show. It wasn't in our minds to go out and play shows, we just thought about writing music, and we wanted recordings of it. We pressed a hundred copies and it sold out pretty quick, so instead of just writing off an EP that we're all still proud of, we, as James said, reworked it to give it a proper push so that we could tour the country with that, and then come back and give the faces we played to on tour something new as opposed to just going out with something new and having to write off the old EP.
Jack: It's also because we're promoting ourselves. We're trying to sort of start up a little bit of a business, make it a job and try to treat it like an investment, so that other people get involved through doing gigs and contacts and what not. Like we are now affiliated with Walnut Tree Records, which has got like Tiger Please and Viva Sleep - purely through experience and time you just work out these contact relationships, and they want to help you out. So it's that whole professionalism we've added to it as well. Now it's like a full package.
RF.net: Are you offering it as a digital copy as well?
Andrew: Yeah, it's going digital on the 5th of April.
Ross: There's a pushback to get it online and stuff.
Ross: When we were looking for a home for the CD, we didn't know what we wanted to do, if we wanted to hole down and get a big independent or what, and I think we all just kind of felt that we wanted someone who cares enough about it. We knew that Tom had been to a couple of our gigs and was a fan, and basically we just said, "what about Tom?" So we had a meeting, we sat down and we said, "we don't want you to have all the financial risk on this", so we put half the money in. I think that respect - that he could see we were serious about it, is what did it for us. As opposed to just going, "we want 1000 copies, you print them, and we'll sell them", we put in half and he put in half and we all worked on this thing together. He has been nothing but amazing. He's worked his arse off on us, and he's got so many contacts and stuff.
Jack: About a year a go he rounded us all up and asked what we thought, and we didn't know what the hell we were doing. I could barely play my instrument, let alone think about trying to organise gigs. We were sitting there going, "as much as we respect the offer, we have no idea what we want from this band." Then as soon as the year went on, we just thought we were a lot more focused, and was just there and he loved it.
Ross: He's got the same ideas as us. We've not signed with him for any contracts. He seens the potential in us, and he's said on many occasions that if someone big comes along, he's quite happy to let us go. And it's so much nicer to pick up the phone and call the person that's in charge of the label you're on, than do it via a manger and just be a small fish in a big pond. It's much nicer having someone whose label is getting bigger, and growing as a band as the label grows, than to be dropped in with a bunch of guys that don't really give a shit about you personally, that just want money from you.
Jack: We all have jobs and pay rent and stuff, and maintain our lifestyles here, but we are doing this as something we want to potentially take on to be our life. And what he does is he doesn't sit there and tell us "by this day you have to do this", he urges us, he really does subtly help us in every level. He is literally a legend.
Jack: You can't in any way have a go at the community here. It's like Tom. Basically it's a city of Tom Beck. It's nothing but supportive, it's really healthy and you know everyone. When you see other musicians you don't go, "oh, look, it's that twat", you go "oh hey, how you doing, you alright?"
Ross: There's no competition, everyone's out to help each other.
Andrew: The great thing is that everyone comes to the shows. I can name you like five bands that are here tonight for example.
James: They pop up on Facebook - big arenas - and I'm just like... I'm trying to report the images.
Andrew: They've done really well for thesmelves. Davyd was a very big supporter of us from the early days. He got us on the shows and stuff, and he sings our praises all the time. I never actually realised it before I got phone calls like, "one of the from Bury Tomorrow mentioned you." I'd love to see myself in the position that they're in right now.
RF.net: More touring in the future as well?
Andrew: I mean, at the level we're at, we're at the level where people are coming out to watch us, but it's a double-edged sword. Our name is not out enough. We're trying, and Tom is obviously helping us out, and Ross' brother manages us when he's not working his job, he's doing everything he can. We've got two great guys who support us and try to help us, but the thing is it's one of those things where it's about getting on tours and stuff. Once we've done it off our own back, because we've never really toured properly, we'll see what happens.
Jack: We'd love to take like four weeks off and just play every venue in the country, but it's just like, picking the right time and the money.
Jack: I'd love to play in Denmark!